Is there is any explanation for Jill Stein to latch onto the jingoistic, Cold War rhetoric of Russian hacking conspiracies that come straight from the Clinton campaign, the DNC, and the White House? Not even poorly thought out schemes explain this one. When Stein first announced that she was launching the recount, she also had this type of rhetoric in the following statement that has since been sanitized on her site, but not before it was was picked up in various outlets such as The Telegraph and CNBC:
“After a divisive and painful presidential race, in which foreign agents hacked into party databases, private email servers, and voter databases in certain states, many Americans are wondering if our election results are reliable. That’s why the unexpected results of the election and reported anomalies need to be investigated before the 2016 presidential election is certified. We deserve elections we can trust.”
The Wisconsin petition and an early draft of the Michigan recount petition promote the same kind of rhetoric. Anyone looking at a copy of the Wisconsin petition can see this:
Page one, point number 3:
“The petitioner is informed and believes that:
a. In August 2016, it was widely reported that foreign operators breached voter registration databases in at least two states and stole hundreds of thousands of voter records.”
Page two, point f:
“f. The well-documented and conclusive evidence of foreign interference in the presidential race before the election, along with irregularities observed in Wisconsin, call into question the results and indicate the possibility that widespread breach occurred.”
The argument cannot be made that Jill Stein is unaware that this anti-Russian propaganda is in her petition and the earlier draft of the Michigan petition. Her notarized signature appears right under her main “The Russians did it” points.
In a detailed account written by Michigan Green Party activist LuAnn Kozma that has been publicly posted, Kozma points out that the Stein camp hired Democratic Party operatives to run the recount in her state, bypassing leftist legal outfits such as the local National Lawyers Guild and those who worked on state’s marijuana legalization campaign. She also points out that the Stein/Baraka electors were being successfully lobbied to sign onto the campaign’s Michigan legal brief:
“[W]hy is Stein’s Democratic Party-led legal team asking and pressuring our 16 electors –telling them they could even talk to Jill if they were uncertain about signing along on the petition with her?” Kozma asks. “In Michigan [Stein] recruited some of our 16 electors to sign along with her, and agree to those preposterous statements. Amazingly, many did.”
It is also important to note that Kozma is a paralegal and her spouse is an attorney. Both are members of the local National Lawyers’ Guild. They certainly would have known where to point the Stein campaign as far as hiring a legal team. Also, while the final copy of the Michigan recount petition submitted did not have the Russian hacking conspiracy theories, an earlier copy certainly did. This earlier copy is the one that Kozma refers to in her letter posted on-line.
I can forgive a lot but not Jill Stein's red scare tactics.
And she should damn well know better because people tried to red smear her.
This is C.I.'s "Iraq snapshot:"
Friday, December 9, 2016. Chaos and violence continue, the Mosul slog
continues, a KRG official tells the BBC that Iraq is a failed state, we
revisit War Hawk Hillary and the 2008 primary, and much more.
You don't help women by repeating lies.
You don't help women by repeating lies.
PRESIDENT CARTER - AMERICAN HERO #focus #DONTaddHIM
Rosie O'Donnell already tanked NBC's broadcast -- which the execs feared and they were right -- of HAIRSPRAY this week so you'd think she'd be a little more careful.
But typhon Rosie just goes barreling away.
Self-built?
By Jimmy?
Shame on Rosie.
I'm not surprised some idiot who'd link to DAILY KOS wouldn't know reality.
And let me clarify that since some are too uninformed to grasp.
If you are in the Debra Messing-Rosie O'Donnell crowd and just can't stop loving that Hillary Clinton, you don't likn to KOS.
I get it, you're vapid and shallow and uninformed.
But 2008 was not that long ago.
KOS ran off the supporters of Hillary in 2008 -- believe he said Hillary didn't deserve fairness -- and your ignorance about that is really shocking.
Whether it was THE NEW YORK TIMES or THE ATLANTIC or VANITY FAIR, this was covered.
So your desire to embrace a site that trafficked in the worst attacks on Hillary -- including that she was calling for someone to assassinate Barack Obama -- is truly disgusting.
So the idiot didn't know better than and is also too much of an idiot to know that Jimmy's peanut farm was not self-made by Jimmy.
Rosalynn Carter has repeatedly noted that her marriage was a true partnership.
And that farm? While Jimmy was learning new ag techniques, Rosaylann was learning book keeping.
How sad that not one but two people -- Larry Cooper and Ro-Ro -- want to pretend they're celebrating Jimmy Carter but seem to only be able to do that by stripping Rosalynn of her share of the credit.
"His self-built peanut farm"?
Rosie, you're no better now than the sexist critics who slammed Rosalynn for sitting in on Cabinet meetings.
It's not that Rosie's not good for anything these days.
After all, she reTweeted this garbage.
Pat Fuller
This is how some of us feel. #TheResistance
By reTweeting it, she exposed it to a lot more people.
This is the schilling of big money.
It's not about resistance.
What are they resisting?
There are wars going on.
Are they calling out those?
Hell no.
Never.
But they are pimping the lie that Russia interfered with the election.
It did not.
To continue to repeat that lie means they are calling out Barack Obama.
Note how they blame the agencies that report to . . . Barack.
That's what they're saying only, as usual, they're too gutless to speak what they're implying.
I doubt there are many harsher critics of Barack Obama online and I wouldn't accuse them of what they're accusing him of (which, let's be clear, is treason).
These people need to grow up.
I get that they're wounded. Marcia spoke for many in "That idiot Susan J. Douglas:"
Debra Messing, you are a nut and a psycho.
But I can understand your feelings of outrage because I had them in 2008.
I was supporting Hillary.
And she lost (or 'lost') to Barack.
And the whole time we had to deal with sexism.
We had to deal with Hillary nut crackers, we had to deal with talk of her "pimp"ing out her daughter, we had men like Chris Matthews saying that when they heard her voice, they had to cross their legs, etc.
And some of us defended her.
I started this blog for that reason.
I used all my PTO days to go out and campaign for her in states that hadn't held their primaries yet.
And so few would call out the sexism.
Susan J. Douglas refused to call out the sexism.
We were upset.
But we didn't go around screaming that foreign governments had destroyed Hillary in the primary or any other such nonsense.
We did talk about the gross sexism. We called it out as it was happening and we refused to let it just fade away with by-gones-be-by-gones.
Because of those actions -- and that was not just the people in our community who have sites as well as Riverdaughter, and so many others -- Hillary didn't face the sexism that she did in 2008.
The actions thousands of us took in 2008 forced the media to finally acknowledge what had happened -- except for columnists Marie Cocco and Bonnie Erbe, the media ignored it during the primary -- and then we had Howard Dean playing dumb to THE NEW YORK TIMES about what went down.
I contrast that with the whimpering, cry baby crowd of today who rests their hopes on recounts, then on persuading the electors in the electoral college, then on . . .
It's insanity. It's even worse when you don't know what happened and link to KOS or Bill Moyers or whatever piece of crap.
From June of 2008, this is Ava and my "TV: Strength greeted with confusion, attacks & silence:"
Wednesday, Katie Couric opened her "Notebook" (CBS Evening News) and proved the old adage, "If every woman in the world told the truth at the same time, the world as we know it would change forever."
[12/916 Click here for where they've moved the video to since 2008.]
During the primary campaign, Dr. Kathy was brought on frequently as an 'expert' by Bill Moyers (to his Bill Moyers Journal -- which airs on the non-cable PBS and has a very large audience). On one of those segments (January 9th), Senator Hillary Clinton 'crying' was addressed. Hillary didn't cry but Dr. Kathy felt the need to bring that moment up and, 'expert' that she is, she credits it with Hillary's success in New Hampshire despite the fact that late breaking voters identified their reasons for going with Clinton as the Saturday debate. From the transcript of the January 9th broadcast:
If
you doubted it, you missed what followed Couric calling out sexism. An
intense effort to play dumb, attack or stay silent. On Friday, The New York Times
went with with the first tactic. In a long article that said very
little (no women in broadcast or cable news were sought out for the
story), Katharine Q. Seelye and Julie Bosman offer "Critics and News Executives Split Over Sexism in Clinton Coverage."
Heavy on featuring men (all quotes on the front page are from men) and
short on women. All women featured show up late in the story (and inside
the paper where it continues). Among the tiny number featured is one
our readers know very well, Dr. Kathy:
"Largely,
the problem was on cable and in the blogosphere and on the Internet,
and that's a relatively small audience," said Kathleen Hall Jamieson,
director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of
Pennsylvania. "But while it was limited, it was limited to influential
people."
Oh, Dr. Kathy, we try to be
nice. We tried. But as Staci Lattisaw once suggested, "Nail It To The
Wall." "It" would be your ass, Dr. Kathy. Dr. Kathy lied to The New York Times and let's deal with that 1first. "Relatively small audience," she insisted last week. Well, golly, what did she say in May?
"Secondly,
we know something about how the electorate is using the new media
environment," Dr. Kathy told Bill Moyers on May 2nd. "Meaning lots of
cable channels that you have an option to go to, even when you're
watching traditional, mainstream broadcast. People aren't watching 30
minutes of NBC or CBS or ABC anymore. There's a whole part of the
electorate that is watching a segment of it. It gets what it needs of
politics, and it starts to channel-surf to find other political
information. And over a third of the electorate says, it's done that at
least once or twice in this most recent viewing experience."
To
the paper last week, she insisted "the problem" (what is it, vaginal
odor -- she can't say "sexism"?) was exposed to a "very small audience."
Yet last month, on PBS, she was stating one-third of the electorate
(ONE THIRD!) was utilizing cable channels and the web for information.
Dr. Kathy has always struggled to build a relationship with the truth.
The two remain estranged.
During the primary campaign, Dr. Kathy was brought on frequently as an 'expert' by Bill Moyers (to his Bill Moyers Journal -- which airs on the non-cable PBS and has a very large audience). On one of those segments (January 9th), Senator Hillary Clinton 'crying' was addressed. Hillary didn't cry but Dr. Kathy felt the need to bring that moment up and, 'expert' that she is, she credits it with Hillary's success in New Hampshire despite the fact that late breaking voters identified their reasons for going with Clinton as the Saturday debate. From the transcript of the January 9th broadcast:
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: But that's not the whole story. In the Hillary moment, characterized very differently by people-
BILL MOYERS: The moisty moment?
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Well, whatever adjective or adverb you use, Hillary Clinton has this moment in the diner.
BILL MOYERS: The national press was cynical. Clinton is hoping that showing that other side will bring women in particular to the polls, almost as if she had done it deliberate. We don't know whether she did or not. But the two significant newspapers in New Hampshire didn't cover the event at all. And local television coverage in New Hampshire was pretty matter of fact about it. It became a bigger national story than it did a local story.
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Mm-hm. But what's also interesting to me is you're not sure whether she did it deliberately or not.
BILL MOYERS: The moisty moment?
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Well, whatever adjective or adverb you use, Hillary Clinton has this moment in the diner.
BILL MOYERS: The national press was cynical. Clinton is hoping that showing that other side will bring women in particular to the polls, almost as if she had done it deliberate. We don't know whether she did or not. But the two significant newspapers in New Hampshire didn't cover the event at all. And local television coverage in New Hampshire was pretty matter of fact about it. It became a bigger national story than it did a local story.
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Mm-hm. But what's also interesting to me is you're not sure whether she did it deliberately or not.
What's
interesting to us is that 'expert' Dr. Kathy brought it up on her own,
interjected it and didn't know what the hell she was talking about.
What's interesting to us is that Bill Moyers calls it a 'moisty' moment
-- oh, ha, ha, you are so very funny.
But along with trying to be funny, he also likes pranks. The same episode.
JESSE JACKSON, JR.: We saw a sensitivity factor…But there are a lot of issues for which we can be emotion on this campaign.
That's how the transcript 'plays' that moment. It is not how it played on TV. (And we called it out in real time.) The "..." was not used on PBS, Jackson's actual words (aired on MSNBC) were. Dr. Kathy wants to tell The New York Times
it was the bad world of blogs and the bad world of cable. But Moyers
played Jackson entire sexist attack on Hillary. (Watch the episode
online if you doubt us.)
And Dr. Kathy? Not a word. Brought on as an 'expert.' Moyers plays the sexist attack on Hillary and Dr. Kathy responds?
BILL MOYERS: What do you think?
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Much of the commentary about that moment is simply a Rorschach read on people's ideological relationship to Hillary Clinton. The question for the electorate at large is: Does it speak to her capacity to lead? It's the same question that one should ask of everything one sees of candidates.
KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON: Much of the commentary about that moment is simply a Rorschach read on people's ideological relationship to Hillary Clinton. The question for the electorate at large is: Does it speak to her capacity to lead? It's the same question that one should ask of everything one sees of candidates.
Jackson
has just falsely lied and attacked Clinton in sexist terms and Dr.
Kathy doesn't address that. She doesn't point out that he's lying when
he says she cried about her appearance and she certainly doesn't point
out that he had a chunk of his intestines removed to lose fifty pounds
-- so who is he to accuse anyone else of vanity?
Dr.
Kathy just let it skirt on by. Dr. Kathy can insist it was 'cable, all
cable!' But people like Bill Moyers amplified it by replaying on
non-cable and Dr. Kathy was present for that. And it should be noted
that journalists know the difference between primary and secondary
sources. Meaning? Bill Moyers should explain why he REFUSED to play
Clinton's moment but was happy to air an attack on that moment while
pretending he wanted to address the moment. But Dr. Kathy was present
and she didn't call out the lies or the sexism. She just called it a
"Rorschach read." Dr. Kathy, you're an embarrassment.
Don't
believe us? Check over her various visits 'explaining' what was what to
Moyers. Dr. Kathy, even when Hillary won New Hampshire, never attempted
to portray it as anything for women to take pride in or to connect it
to the centuries old and ongoing women's movement. But golly, bi-racial
Barack was to be connected to history.
Check
out the babble from the January 4th broadcast, after Barack won Iowa,
"echo of Martin Luther King, Jr." (Dr. Kathy), MLK and Moses (Moyers),
"Civil Rights movement" (Dr. Kathy), "Selma and Montgomery" (Dr. Kathy),
"father from Kenya" (Dr. Kathy), "transcend the racial divide" (Dr.
Kathy), "unification" (Dr. Kathy), "Obama changes the metaphor; because
King took his people to the mountain, Obama can take them somewhere
else" (Moyers and, yes, it is racist as well as laughable since Barack's
bi-racial and made no promises to America's Black community), and
that's all from one appearance. In that appearance she also casts
Hillary "as the establishment" -- Dr. Kathy would argue she said the
press did but Dr. Kathy was brought on to 'see beyond' the press spin as
Moyers stated ("Her calling is to mine the facts hidden in all the
spin," Jan. 11th, BMJ)) and she didn't question and certainly
didn't point out that Barack, first entering the Illinois state
legislature in 1995, was no political virgin.
Speaking to The New York Times,
Dr. Kathy left out the fact that whatever happens on cable is amplified
elsewhere. She seemed to 'forget' Jackson's MSNBC attack was re-played
by Moyers on PBS and that she was present for it and that she didn't
call out. She forgets a lot.
Don't pretend that 2016 was rough for Hillary.
And don't pretend that she was an innocent.
She never should have used private e-mail and a private server.
That's only one of her problems.
She lost Marcia, Ava and myself (among others) because her remarks about her "mistake" on Iraq? She amplified them after her failed run. Her mistake? To think Bully Boy Bush would send enough troops to Iraq.
That was her mistake.
In 2008, she finally said "mistake," okay, maybe she can learn from her mistakes. We knew Barack was for the war (he told Elaine and I that at his Senate run fundraiser). The illegal war matters. If Hillary could learn from her mistake, we could support her.
But it was just more spin in 2008. We learned that when she was Secretary of State. And she did nothing to help Iraqi women -- even with own friends imploring her to help them. And she wanted war in Syria. And she advocated and got war on Libya.
She's a War Hawk.
Yesterday, wearing make up (which idiots will decide this 'new look' is a feminist statement?), she wanted to call out Fake News.
She wanted to.
That's right, her.
CBS News
Hillary Clinton: "Let me just mention one threat in particular that should concern all Americans... the epidemic of malicious fake news"
As John Stauber notes:
John Stauber 
And he's not the only one.
- The lies that led to the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea etc don't count however...
In reply to Zach Haller
Tammy Kosiancic
.@zachhaller Hillary's 'fake news' that caused the horrible murders of Gaddafi & those in Libya and Iraq. My God, it just goes on & on
Christoph Germann
Woman who voted for Iraq War says: "It's now clear that so-called fake news can have real-world consequences."
In reply to Rowdy Toddy Typer
Yuletide Hog
@__cad__ fake news caused sister hillary to accidentally vote for the iraq war, destroy libya, enable the murder of berta cacares,
This is the reality of Hillary that her cult today refuses to own.
She has caused wars and destruction.
Was it a 'mistake' as she claimed?
If you make a mistake, you make up for it.
She did nothing as Secretary of State to help the Iraqi people.
#IRAQ شمرية العراق
Graphic pics
Massacre
66Iraqi Sunni civilian killed today & 100 injured by Iraqi army airstrikes on Qaim
#warcrimes
#Iraq
And the Iraq War continues and, with it, all the abuses.
The operation to liberate or 'liberate' Mosul continues.
It's day 53.
Despite Barack calling, June 19, 2014, for a political solution, none has been reached -- or for that matter attempted.
From yesterday's State Dept press briefing moderated by spokesperson Elizabeth Trudeau:
QUESTION: The – Masrour Barzani, the chancellor, of the Kurdistan Region Security Council, just gave a talk at the Wilson Center, and he said – he remarked that before there was ISIS there was al-Qaida in Iraq, and after ISIS there’s likely to be something else unless we get this right. What he said was that the root cause of this radicalism was a political failure in Iraq. What would be your comment on that observation? Would you tend to agree or you think it’s not --
MS TRUDEAU: I wouldn’t speak to the chancellor’s remarks. That would be for him to explain that. I would say that we continue to stand with the people of Iraq. We have been very supportive of the reforms that this government has continued to advance through their legislative process. We believe in a democratic, unified Iraq. We think that’s the future of the country.
I’d also note, though, too, that they have made enormous gains fighting [the Islamic State]. We never said that this would be an easy fight, but we are really seeing progress on the ground.
QUESTION: Because something else not only he, but others – many others have said is there’s been so much bloodshed and it’s still very immediate in people’s minds, in their hearts, that it’s impossible for people to go back to what existed before because they don’t trust – one element doesn’t trust another. Is that something you – you’re – a perspective you’re sympathetic to?
MS TRUDEAU: I think we’re sympathetic to the idea that the people of Iraq have certainly suffered. They’ve suffered under [the Islamic State]. They suffered under the range of violent extremism within their own country. However, we have faith in the people of Iraq. We continue to believe that they’re making significant progress.
[. . .]
QUESTION: Just a follow-up on that issue.
MS TRUDEAU: Sure.
QUESTION: I mean, you talked about the Iraqi people suffering from al-Qaida and ISIS and they – but they also suffered in the war and occupation and so on, and what was missing – I mean, I remember being there for so long – what was missing is national reconciliation. What is missing today in this dialogue is national reconciliation. After all, the current prime minister is of the same party as the former prime minister. What is being done? What is the United States and – or your Administration in its final weeks doing to sort of reignite a path for national reconciliation?
MS TRUDEAU: Well, I think we have seen progress. We have seen important steps taken on reform. We have seen efforts made across sectarian lines. We’re not saying the work is done. I don’t think for any of us in any of the countries, including my own, work is ever done on this. But we do recognize when progress has been made, Said.
All the money spent continuing the Iraq War and there's no progress at all.
The Islamic State came to power because of conditions in Iraq -- such as the persecution of the Sunnis. Having failed to address that issue, something else will surely follow the Islamic State -- if or when it's ever defeated.
Robert J. Barsocchini (COUNTERCURRENTS) observes:
Fake news propagated by the US government and collaborating organizations such as the New York Times and Washington Post helped create an environment in which the US was able to illegally invade Iraq in 2003, killing at least one million and possibly upwards of two million people, including the deaths of some 4,500 US soldiers, according to a meta-study by Nobel-winning Physicians for Social Responsibility.
Just this November, nearly 6,000 people were killed in Iraq thanks to the conflicts that are still raging due to the invasion (which is ongoing), and it was not an atypical month – even more were killed in October.
Regarding the fake news that laid the groundwork for the US war of aggression, award-winning journalist Robert Parry notes that, for example, Judith Miller of NYT and Washington Post editorial page editor Fred Hiatt “repeatedly stated the ‘fact’ of Iraq’s hidden WMD as flat fact and mocked anyone who doubted the ‘group think.’”
Parry also traces the use of fake news by these outlets and the government to the present, raising interesting legal questions about whether and how the individuals who perpetrate fake news should be punished, and to what extent they are protected by the US first amendment.
Meanwhile, Iraq "has failed to be a fair governor for all." That's the call made by the Kurdistan Regional Government's Deputy Prime Minister Qubad Talabani who appeared on today's BBC HARDTALK. We'll note this section of the interview.
Qubad Talabani : We have not been shy about talking to Iraq, talking to our partners in the west about our aspirations and about the aspirations of our people who, by and large, want to be independent. I think that's a natural right for the Kurds, it's a -- it's a historic right for the Kurds. And it's a historic injustice that today the Kurds do not have a state of their own. But the fact that we are talking to Baghdad about this issue, the fact that we will negotiate any independence process with Baghdad --
Stephen Sackur: Ah
Qubad Talabani (Con't): -- should allay the fears with any --
Stephen Sackur: Well --
Qubad Talabani (Con't): -- with any countries nearby or far away that could be concerned about that potential eventuality.
Stephen Sackur: -- Interesting. You use an elegant politician's device there of saying two different things. One you said talk to Baghdad and two you say end negotiations. You could talk to Baghdad
Qubad Talabani : It's a process
[cross-talk]
Qubad Talabani : It's a process. It's not a declaration --
Stephen Sackur: Isn't it?
Qubad Talabani :There will not be a unilateral declaration.
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