Friday, January 15, 2021

We got someone arrested -- how guilty should I feel?

We called the cops tonight and got someone arrested.  How guilty should I feel?  Cedric, my husband, says not at all.

It was 12:40, so about an hour ago.  It was after midnight.  We hear someone making noise outside the house.  Cedric turns on the porch light and goes out to look around, doesn't see anything and comes back in.

Three minutes, if that, later, someone's knocking on our door.  It's some overweight White man in his thirties with a beard.  He tries to barge into the house.  My husband's six foot-two and very muscular and just shoves the guy back out of the door frame.  The guy then starts going, "We cool, bro, we cool.  I'm just here for Glen.  I'm his dealer.  I got weed, I got the hard stuff, I got it all, what you need?"  My husband tells him to get off our property.  The man then starts in with, "Come on, blackie" -- my husband and I are both African-American and I'm assuming 'blackie' was because of that -- "you may not be living in the hood but you know you want it."  My husband said, "Get your ass off our property or I'm calling the police.  No one here wants to speak to you."  I'm in the doorway by this point.  The guy shakes his head but walks away.  

At the door, the man was not whispering, he was loud and he woke up our oldest so I had to go calm everything down there and when I came back out, Cedric was in the kitchen.  I go in there and we're getting ready for bed and talking about the weird  and should we have called the police?  He was irritating and we've got two kids here so we don't need some dealer hanging around our front door.  We decide we did the right thing, he was just a bother and he's gone and he won't be back, file it under a crazy experience and move on.  We head out of the kitchen and through the living room heading for our bedroom when I ask him, "What was that?"

The man is back seated on our porch, on his cell phone, trying to get a ride and when my husband opens the door and tells him to go, the man says, "Big dawg, I'll leave when I get a ride.  Might be five minutes, might by two hours."  That's it,  Ceddric's fishing his phone out of his pocket and calling the cops.  The guy starts to walk off but my husband doesn't hang up and explains to the police dispatch what's going on.  

They got somebody there in about 15 minutes -- because Cedric noted the man had a large backpack and they can probably get him on possession.  But before the police get here we sit down in the living room.  And we're wondering should we feel bad about this?  Probably a non-violent issue, could we have looked the other way?  As parents, we don't want some strange man hanging around our house from now on, so did we do the right thing.

He's back banging at the door.  He's yelling and now both the kids are up and they're scared and Cedric's running for the door to kick the man's ass when the police pulled up.  They arrested him -- and he did have "the hard stuff" in his backpack.

I don't know.  

If it had been during the day and he was calling for a cab and getting out of there quick, I might have looked the other way.  That's not me saying Cedric was wrong to call the cops.  That was both of our decision and we were in agreement on it.  But I do feel a little bad that someone's going to be booked and all so anyway.

Only bright spot, when they put him the squad car, the African-American cop came up to let us know they were taking him to jail and that everything was fine now, he looked us, shook his head, looked back over at the car, back as us and joked, "When did they start bussing White dealers into the neighborhood?"  You might have had to have been there because he delivered it perfectly -- a professional stand-up couldn't have done it better.  But that provided a needed laugh.

Anyway, I'm going to bed but I'm going to wonder all night if I did the right thing?


This is C.I.'s "Iraq snapshot:"

 Friday, January 15, 2021.  A look at impeachment, an activist targeted in Iraq, and more.

Let's start with impeachment.  I'm working for a list of comments, questions, slams compiled by Martha and Shirley from e-mails to the public account.  First, as Keesha always says, this is a private conversation in a public space.  Second, public e-mail is and community members have the private e-mail but apparently some are asking "what's the public e-mail"?  That's what it is.

I always, several insisted, agree with Jonathan Turley.  No, I don't.  One example, he's arguing that incoming President Joe Biden should not pardon Donald Trump.  My thoughts on the presidential power of pardon have long been established here.  I think there should be more pardons, not less.  I would love to see Julian Assange, Ed Snowden, Leonard Peltier and many more pardoned.  You will never see me whine over a pardon.  If Joe wants to pardon Donald, okay.  If he doesn't, then don't do it.  But, again, I think we need more pardons not less.  Jonathan Turley is very intelligent and highly educated.  That doesn't mean I always agree with him.  I think he's probably the best living legal scholar in the United States.  But I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time.

How was Donald Trump given power by this latest impeachment -- a few ask referring to the comments at the end of yesterday's snapshot.  How?

This goes beyond today.  Way beyond and so many can't see beyond a 24 hour news cycle.

But Donald Trump's now historic.  He's been impeached by the House twice and, guess what, not removed from office either time.

That's historic.

And history will see it as such and wonder why?  Was Donald that strong?  Was he that powerful?

One hundred years from now, people are going to be making calls and it appears the calls will be an ineffectual Congress was unable to take out a president twice impeached in one four year term.

He has historical power.

He was also given power by the nonsense of impeachment itself.

Was there a reason to impeach him?  There were several possible grounds to impeach him on.  But what Nancy Pelosi and Democrats in the House went with was ridiculous.  I could see an argument for Donald being a clear and present danger -- and I made that point last Friday:

The argument here could be (a) he is a clear and present danger so we must take up the American people's time with this.  That's your only pro-impeachment argument.  Unless someone comes up with something else, that's really it.  And that approach would justify a real trial -- because we would need to determine whether or not Donald was now a clear and present danger to the country.


If your issue is just what took place on one day in DC, some will respond that the day is already over, what's the point?  He is gone in 12 days, what's the point?

To justify using time on impeachment at this point -- the House to quickly vote, the Senate to have a trial -- which would include Donald being able to call all the witnesses he wanted and his attorney arguing on behalf of Donald -- which would probably be a long trial -- you'd need a charge like Donald remaining in office for less than two weeks is a clear and present danger to the United States.

Nancy Pelosi ending up mouthing the words but she didn't make the argument why.  She refused to build a case in the Articles for that.  

Could a charge have been made on clear and present danger?  Yes, a credible one could have been made.  But they didn't do that.

Instead they want to say that Donald Trump incited what took place.  Legal defitinions of incitement and sedition and insurrection were all tossed aside.  I don't know what ridiculous definition of "coup" they're using -- it's not a legal definition and it's not a political science definition.

I guess it's a clutch-the-pearls definition?

The hysteria was ecnouraged and people frothed at the mought and it was all a bunch of nonsense.  Quoting Keesha again, last week in DC was an unruly mob storming the halls of Congress.  That's all it was.  It was not a terrorist attack.  It was not a coup.  It was not an issurrection.

But they want to turn it into that and pretend that somehow Donald Trump made remarks advocating or violence.  No, he didn't.  And while bad journalism can selectively quote Donald, a hearing is supposed to examine the full remarks.

By refusing to do their job, they gave Donald power.  And by wasting everyone's time, they gave him power.  If you wanted to impeach him, make a solid argument for it.  Otherwise, you just look tiny and petty.  You look ignorant and stupid.

And that's the House of Representatives.

It also empowers future impeachments because it really doesn't matter.  Bringing impeachment against a president and failing to remove him from office no longer matters.  Mindless idiots will cheer you on and pretend you did something when you did nothing.  

Will Donald be removed from office?  I've spoken to sixteen US senators (14 of them Democrats) and no one believes the Senate will be back before the inauguration.  

That means a post-presidency impeachment.  That's going to be a hard argument for those of us who remember Nancy Pelosi's remarks when John Conyers was attempting that in 2009.  It's also going to be a hard argument for the country.

In the midst of a pandemic, we're going to pause to remove someone from office -- someone who already has left office?  We're going to waste the time and the money for that?  

Most Americans are going to be of the opinion, "Turn the page." 

That's why a lot of us told John Conyers that there was not going to be an impeachment after for Bully Boy Bush.  After Nancy took impeachment off the table in 2006, he sincerely believed he could put it back on the table after Barack Obama was sworn in.  But those of us who talked to him saying, "Lots of luck but it's not happening," grasped the turn-the-page attitude of the American people.  

It's been a time of hysteria and that always is used to panic the American people and make them think they need to give up liberties and give up freedoms.  

Oh, and deep in the night
Our appetites find us
Release us and blind us
Deep in the night
While madmen sit up building bombs
And making laws and bars
They'd like to slam free choice behind us

-- "Three Great Stimulants," written by Joni Mitchell, first appears on DOG EAT DOG.

And that's the real danger to the country -- watch the discussion Chris Hedges and Jimmy Dore have in the video below.

At INFORMATION CLEARING HOUSE, Gary D. Barnett points out:

We are living in a time where no rights whatsoever are respected concerning the people of this country, but the controlling ‘elite’ and their government puppets continue to live mostly without restriction. We are now ruled by an oligarchic upper class, while all the rest of society languishes at the bottom of the heap as serfs. Where is all the anger due to this tyranny that has consumed society? It seems that we are all fighting against one another while those in the ruling class that are causing all the problems are laughing while plotting the final stage of the coup called the “Great Reset.”

This government has been given massive power by the very same people that are now being abused and destroyed because of that power. This is the truth of the matter, but the masses cannot see it. Until this truth is fully understood and accepted by the common man, our fate is not only uncertain, but we are doomed to a life without freedom.

The political system has never existed to give or protect liberty; it is only there to seek more money, power, and control over society. No political solution to this debacle exists, no voting process is worthwhile, and in fact, no remedy for this tyrannical sickness will ever be due to politics or government. The only solution is for the people themselves to stand together instead of fighting each other, to dissent at every level possible, and to disobey all government orders.

Where is the outrage? How can over 300 million people lay back and take what this heinous government has done to them this past year? Why are so many afraid to protect their own liberty and that of their family? The only hope for Americans is to find the truth and act on it, and not expect the government or any politician to take care of them. The government does not care about you. Politicians do not care about you. The one percent and the large corporations do not care about you.

Caitlin Johnston points out:

So again, it’s pretty clear that America isn’t going to attempt to reverse the conditions which created Trump and all the extremist factions that everyone’s been freaking out about since the Capitol riot. Obama led to Trump, and the strategy going forward is to just keep tightening the neoliberal screws like both Obama and Trump did throughout their entire administrations. And, of course, to advance new “domestic terrorism” laws.

As we discussed previously, Biden has often boasted of being the original author of the Patriot Act years before it was rapidly rolled out amid the fear and blind obsequiousness of the aftermath of 9/11. Now in the aftermath of the Capitol riot we are seeing a push to roll out new authoritarian laws around terrorism, this time taking aim at “domestic terror”, which were also in preparation prior to the event used to manufacture support for them.

In a new article for Washington Monthly titled “It’s Time for a Domestic Terrorism Law“, Bill Scher argues against left-wing critics of the coming laws like Glenn Greenwald and Jacobin‘s Luke Savage saying such “knee-jerk reactions” against potential authoritarian abuses fail to address the growing problem. He opens with the acknowledgement that “Joe Biden’s transition team was already working on a domestic terrorism law before the insurrection,” and then he just keeps on writing as though that’s not weird or suspicious in any way.

Scher lists among the growing threat of domestic terror not just white supremacists and right-wing extremists but “extremist left-wing domestic terrorism” as well. He approvingly cites Adam Schiff’s Confronting The Threat of Terrorism Act, which “creates a definition of domestic terrorism broadly encompassing plots that carry a ‘substantial risk of serious bodily injury’ along with an ‘intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population’ or ‘influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.'” The ACLU has unequivocally denounced Schiff’s bill, saying it “would unnecessarily expand law enforcement authorities to target and discriminate against the very communities Congress is seeking to protect.”

Is Bill Scher shocking for doing that?  I guess if you're only now encountering him.  But, never forget, he played footsie with DLC ("New Democrat") Simon Rosenberg despite Simon's homophobia, sexism and racism.  He played footsie and pimped Simon's lies when Simon was trying to become the leader of the DNC in 2005.  Bill Scher is a big joke and if you're only now learning that, you haven't been paying attention.  It's like being surprised by how hideous Sam Seder is (Bill's friend, by the way).  

Bill Scher never stood up for the rights of the American people.  he thought he was writing think pieces but they were paint by number pieces that never challenged the mind and certainly didn't challenge the assumption that we needed to give up freedoms.

Bill works today because people didn't hold him accountable and because he was part of the circle jerk of the '00s.  He and the others accomplished nothing but they did set themselves up nicely, didn't they?  

Iraq remains a failed state and the Iraqi people remain terrorized because of people like Bill Scher who pretended to care when a Republican was in the White House and walked away from Iraq as soon as Barack Obama was sworn in as president.

Iraq?   UNAMI Tweets:

Baghdad, 14 January 2021 – Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for #Iraq, Ms. Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert, attended a meeting of Iraqi presidencies at the Baghdad Palace. Right conditions for the conduct of upcoming Iraq’s early federal elections were discussed.

The elections may not happen in June, UNAMI forgot to Tweet that.  They forget a lot of things that take place in Iraq.  For example, Ruba Ali al-Hassani Tweets:

Just learnt that the home of a good friend in Nasiriyah has been targeted with a hand grenade. He's a known activist in the city. How does anyone expect the #Iraq protest movement to nominate it's own in the upcoming elections if anyone who mobilizes is targeted?!

Ali al-Mikdam identifies the activist:

Unidentified assailants targeted, with an IED, the house of Dr. Abdul-Wahab Al-Hamdani in Sumer neighborhood in central Nasiriyah. Activists in Nasiriyah said that Al-Hamdani was one of the most prominent activists in the protests

No one will be punished for this attack, no one ever is.  And elections?  Looks like they may not be held in June as announced.  Sura Ali (RUDAW) reports:

Holding elections in June may not be realistic, according to the spokesperson for Iraq’s Independent High Electoral Commission (IHEC). Only a fraction of eligible voters have updated their electoral records and most of the political entities have not registered yet, Jumana Alghalai told Rudaw English on Friday, a day ahead of a registration deadline.

“Twenty-five political alliances were registered in IHEC records in 2018, but only two of them have registered again for 2021 and updated their data in IHEC records, although the deadline for registering political alliances is tomorrow, Saturday,” Alghalai said. 

“The commission has issued registration licenses for 230 parties, but only a few of them have registered and updated their records, despite the fact that the deadline is soon,” she added.

Most voters, too, have not updated their records. “We have 25 million citizens eligible to vote this year. While 14 million of them have their biometric ID, only 105,390 have updated their electoral records,” Alghalai said. “Therefore, it might be unrealistic to hold elections in June without political alliances, parties, or voters.”

Lastly, POLITICO's Lara Seligman Tweets:

BREAKING: US force levels in Afghanistan and Iraq have now reached 2,500, as directed by President Trump, Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller announces

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WandaVision comes out tomorrow on Disney+.  I will be watching but the trailer did not excite me and I'm not really into a six part show that focuses on suburbia and teaching me lessons (that I already know) which is what the trailer looks like.

It better be a good show because they have kept us waiting for this for over a year -- Disney+ should have had this up and streaming a year ago.

This is C.I.'s "Iraq snapshot:"

 Thursday, January 14, 2021.  The Pope gets the COVID vaccine, an Iraqi school is raided by 'security' forces, Donald Trump is impeached and much more

Pope Francis is scheduled to visit Iraq starting March 5th.  If it takes place, it would be the first time a sitting pontiff has visited the country.  The agenda includes visits to Baghdad, Mosul and Erbil.  Hannah Brockhaus (CNA) reports:

More information has been released about the papal visit to Iraq, as Pope Francis expressed doubt this week about whether the trip would take place as planned in March.

In a television interview on Sunday, the pope said that he had canceled two international trips in 2020, “because in conscience I cannot cause gatherings, can I? Now I don’t know if the next trip to Iraq will take place,” he told the news program Tg5.

Meanwhile, local organizers of the visit released on Monday the logo and motto of the visit.

The logo for the trip depicts Pope Francis in front of an outline of Iraq, with the Tigris and Euphrates rivers and a palm tree. There is also a dove carrying an olive branch flying over the Vatican and Iraqi flags.

AFP notes, "Both Pope Francis and his predecessor, former pope Benedict XVI, have received the coronavirus vaccine, the Vatican said on Thursday.  The Argentine pontiff, 84, has previously spoken of the importance of the jab in the fight against Covid-19, which has severely curtailed his own love of being among his flock."  EXPLICA adds, "The Vatican began on Wednesday the vaccination campaign for the about 5,000 Vatican residents and employees."  COVID-19 is what's putting the trip into question.  The Pope is advocating for the shot noting it's safe for the person getting it and that it helps ensure the safety of others.  Mohammed Qureshi Tweets:


Pope unsure if March trip to Iraq can take place because of COVID-19

In Iraq, the World Health Organization counts 606,416 cases of COVID so far.  And there's more.  Halgurd Sherwani (KURDISTAN 24) reports, "A new suspected case of the COVID-19 variant was detected in the Kurdistan Region’s Duhok province on Wednesday in a person who had returned from the United Kingdom, the autonomous Kurdish region’s health minister said."      Joe Snell (AL-MONITOR) informs:

Iraq is expected to receive its first doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine by February, according to Iraq’s Health Minister on Monday. 

Last month, the ministry announced it had signed a preliminary deal with the vaccine makers to import 1.5 million doses by early 2021. Health Ministry spokesperson Saif al-Badr confirmed this week with state-owned newspaper al-Sabah that Iraq’s share of the vaccine is now 8 million doses, enough to cover 20% of the country’s population. Troops, health care workers and the elderly are prioritized for vaccines, Badr had said in December. 

 Syria is between Lebanon and Iraq.  Lebanon is in the midst of a 24-day lockdown (there's criticism of the lockdown being futile due to the number of exceptions being allowed to avoid lockdown).  Iraq could be next to go into lockdown.  Of more concern is that's taking place in the country Iraq shares a southern border with.  ARAB WEEKLY notes of Kuwait:

Kuwaiti ministers handed in their resignations to the prime minister on Tuesday, the government communications office (CGC) said, days after lawmakers submitted a motion asking to question the premier over issues including the makeup of the cabinet.

Prime Minister Sheikh Sabah al-Khalid al-Sabah must submit the resignations to the OPEC member state’s ruler, Emir Sheikh Nawaf al-Ahmed al-Jaber al-Sabah, for approval.

The Arab Weekly and three main Kuwaiti newspapers previously reported that Sheikh Sabah was expected to hand in the resignations.

The resignation of the cabinet, formed on December 14, had been expected after the move in parliament earlier this month that posed the first political challenge for the new emir as the country faces its worst economic crisis in decades.

The political turmoil results from the economic crisis that Lebanon is facing.  Iraq?  Devaluing the dinar was only the first step and analysts have been warning for weeks that the poverty rate in Iraq will increase drastically as a result of devaluing the dinar and other proposed options.  Dealing with corruption?  Not an option -- despite corruption having crippled the Iraqi economy.

Steve Hanke Tweets:

In March '03, Paul Wolfowitz claimed, “Oil revenues... of [Iraq] can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.” It's now January 2021 & #Iraq's depressed oil revenues has forced devaluation of the #dinar & has sent the economy spiralling.

Iraq is facing many problems -- including a government that does not protect or serve the citizens.  RADIO AL-SALAM Tweets:

Worrying images from #Nasiriyah in #Iraq. The past few days the city is experiencing violent #clashes. They're a lot of injured and detained protestors. People are asking for an improvement of services, protection from the government & are complaining about the economic situation

No one is sent to prison for killing a protester -- the cases just pile up, year after year. Sura Ali (RUDAW) reports a new development in the out of control security forces:

Security forces stormed a school in Iraq's southern city of Nasiriyah on Tuesday to arrest a young man believed to have participated in recent demonstrations – leading the Iraqi prime minister to apologize to the school's director for the incident.

Video shared by the Iraqi Observatory for Human Rights on Tuesday showed masked security force members storming the Central Secondary School Building in Nasiriyah, Dhi Qar province to make the arrest.

"Today, in the Central Secondary School, there was an arrest of a young man who ran away from their hands and took cover in the school," Ali al-Bayati, a member of the Iraqi High Commission for Human Rights (IHCHR) said on Tuesday.

"When they are terrorizing people and violating educational institutions while running after a young man who escaped to the school seeking for protection, we cannot call them a security force, but a terror force," Bayati said.

Mohamed al-Khayat, an eyewitness and activist in Nasiriyah, told Rudaw English on Wednesday that "though the young man was not a student at the school, he was still a teenager”. 

The Iraqi Teachers Union in Dhi Qar issued a statement denouncing the incident, saying that "the union was surprised by the security forces arresting a protester in a school, which violates the law and the sanctity of education".

 Prime Minsiter Mustafa al-Kadhimi has issued an apology -- but words are so easy for Mustafa, it's action that he struggles with.  Noor Tweets the following to Mustafa:

We call on the United Nations and human rights organizations to immediately intervene to save the lives of protesters in Nasiriyah from armed militias in light of the absence of the state and the militias controlling the security force in Nasiriyah


The military and riot police exchanged gunfire during a protest in #Nasiriyah demanding the end of corruption and sectarianism in #Iraq, resulting in at least 1 death on each side as the army worked to protect demonstrators from a rogue police force.

At MILITARY.COM, Bonnie Kristian offers:

The possible closure has largely been analyzed for its potential effect on U.S.-Iran relations: President Donald Trump tweeted threats of retaliation against Iran should further rocket attacks claim any American lives, and he is reportedly being briefed on a "range of options" for response.

Those implications are significant, particularly given how close the U.S. came to war with Iran a year ago. But also deserving attention is the state of U.S. foreign policy in Iraq itself, where the embassy is located -- and where the United States has been at war for 17 years. Trump's tenure has served to further permanentize U.S. military intervention in Iraq, so much so that the prospect of closing the Baghdad embassy raises more questions about the chance of starting a new war with Iran than about ending the old war in Iraq.

Yes, the Iraq War does continue -- even though CODESTINK, Leslie Cagan and others who made name and money off it -- pretending to protest it -- ignore the ongoing war.  

Let's note the war in the e-mails of the public e-mail account for this site.  Incite.  


Not "insight."

I don't know why you feel the need to lecture me to begin with but I might take you a little more seriously if you didn't repeatedly demonstrate your lack of understanding.

I don't comment on everything here.  I don't pretend to know everything.  When it comes to the law, I know Constitutional law and I know contract law.  (I am trying to deepen my knowledge of oceanic law but that's been a time issue since this site started.)  

I was right about?  The SOFA.  I was the only one right about it except for one reporter who doesn't want credit.  People lied to the public which then wanted to repeat the lie.  But I read that contract the day it was published and that same day walked you through it.  I was right.  I was right about the issues in Plamegate as well.  

I'm not right because I tune into MSNBC and then repeat whatever over the top statement they and their guest made.  

In fact, I don't do heavy drama.  It bores me.

But what I did do was spend a lot of time on my education.  How many Constitutional law classes did you take?  How many moot cases did you argue?  I'm not even an attorney.  I took classes -- undergrad and grad -- that interested me.  I made my own degree plan and it gave me a strong foundation in several areas.

You don't know the legal definitions of incite or sedition.  As you Russia hoxers rush to object and e-mail me, do you realize that the conspiracy you're detailing in your e-mails only exists regarding the whole Russiagate garbage?

I don't think you do and that's your biggest failing.

You can only see your viewpoint.  Maybe there are too may safe spaces?  I can see many sides to an issue.  

With Donald Trump, the fact that he's the target (right now) makes many of you thrilled about impeachment.  When it's Joe Biden or someone else facing the same nonsense, see how it works out ofr you then.  

"You don't get it, Nancy Pelosi said it was a clear and present danger this week!"

Did she?  Good for her.  I believe I noted that was an argument that could be made when I wrote about impeachment last Friday.  I didn't say you just repeated the words, I said you had to make an argument that backed that up and she didn't do that.  Too much work required and, despite being a legislator, Nancy's never really known the law.

I'm as stupid, a few of you insist, as the member of Congress who was for impeachment but on other grounds.

I don't know who you're referring to.  I'm not following the jawboning over this, sorry.  But if someone objects to impeachment on the grounds that Nancy put forward, they're right.

Test case.  I know that's a term many of you don't know know and may not understand.  You want to test the law?  You get a test case.  Because the law is the law.  And the argument you make better be backed up by the law or you risk being overturned even if you win the first round.

Roe V Wade was a test case.  When Roe later insisted she wasn't raped and had made it up, some insisted Roe V Wade should be overturned.  Problem?  Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee argued that case before the Supreme Court, they didn't raise the issue of rape.  They made their argument on solid ground because, guess what, they knew the law.  How you argue a case matters.  

Donald Trump's been impeached.  I am not surprised as some of the drive-bys insist.  I have said all along that the impeachment would pass the House.  

What happens next?  Well they've given Donald a huge amount of power.  I talked about that in the roundtable for the gina & krista round-robin -- should be inboxes right now.  I'll write about it here tomorrow.

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